Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). I waxed it out. Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Imagine if that would have been quartz? Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. It requires a special approach. I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. That means a single guy can take his time. Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. I am sorry , Thank you!! The 'raw' look is a special look. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. They both marked, but the oil was harder to see. So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. We love our floors! Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. I know this is a flooring product but the color was almost perfect. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. @Mary Elizabeth I think we have narrowed it down to Ciranova's products..after testing theirs, Rubio Monocoat and several Pallman's waxes, plus a number of normal stains. In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. And like all things "time is money". I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. I DEFINITELY reccomend reading reviews for fabricators before choosing who you'll use . I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. That's what I ended up doing. You have NOT hired installer yet! (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) See the before and afters and why we chose this color. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? @Gilligan GehrityI am lucky (at least where I live) to have a cabinet maker who #1 will fit me into their schedule and #2 is willing to learn a method to satisfy my requests. I knew this was IT. Nordic seal has white pigments. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. Absolutely love the matte finish. Someone posted on here that if you like a just washed look reconsider using matte. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. However, I think the maintenance is much harder than what I previously had - natural red oak with a higher sheen. 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. Heres a close up. White oak seems to be kind of tricky. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). They are not even good choices for low care floors. @mpto Thanks so much, can't wait to see your final product!! Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. White oak stain is also famous. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. Hey Merrilyn, looks like we are in the same boat. That means you relate clean with shiny. Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. They are 7&1/4 inch baseboards though if that helps. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. We have just received a couple samples however and they haven't had the same look as some of the inspiration picture. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. Try this color if you want a darker shade. WebUsing Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor Ever since greige became a big trend, people have been trying to lighten up their homes. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. You only need an inch. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). The supplier may help you out. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. I can reject non-essential cookies by clicking Manage Preferences. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. Then ask the fabricator about the stone you are considering if it's purchased from a separate slab yard. Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. I didn't choose the Nordic because I thought the white pigment made it look unnatural. I still love the white oak but maybe with less wood cabinets maple will be ok. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? The finish guy said he put on 1.5 gal on the first coat of TrafficHD. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: Thank you for asking. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. No one does work for free. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. Ask for Bona Mega One. Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. ! Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. :), Absolutely gorgeous. WebApplication of the sealer will alter the chemical structure of the porous sandstone or natural stone providing a excellent water repellent and stain resistant surface. He just did coat #2, not sure how much he used. (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. You should look it up. Absolutely love the matte finish. The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. Our hardwood installer actually did one coat sealant last Friday, then a coat of finish later in the day, then Saturday did another coat of finish. It is not the homeowner's fault that the job was bid too low (but they did accept the bid)but it is now the homeowner's experience (part of the decision process of taking the low bid) to live through a full sand and refinish of a brand new floor. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. NordicSealis an easy to use water-based sealer from Bonawhich you can use it to achieve this popular whitewashed look. Nice when a risk pays off . Looking at pictures of finished jobs of all three, its difficult to tell the difference. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. That's not what was happening. Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. @Jessica Lirag what did you end up with? Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. Natural came in too natural or raw (though thats what I thought I wanted). I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. Then go with water based and be done with it. 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I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. Im glad we didnt go darker. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. and I wish we had another layer of protection. My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step. Those are STUNNING! Is this permissible to use on cabinets. Think NCAA and NBA courts. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. Why did you decide to go with Corian? Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. If, Bona Mega is your budget. It did not affect the color. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. Anyway, good luck. Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. Can you add some white to the Renner System? Finished with three matte protective coats. I like natural white oak with your concept. The main thing to worry about when it comes to Quartzite is if it is actually a true Quartzite. Mega turns yellow. They just don't get any DARKER over time. I like the stains that are made by the same company that makes the finish. There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. WebBona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. Then the next day a coat of finish. Please dont post again while I figure out how to delete this post. :). Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). P.S. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? We were advised to wait until the economy rebounds. The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. P.P.S. These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. Very patient. And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". Gravity works. Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. Sigh. The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! New This Week: 3 Knockout Kitchens With Natural Wood Cabinets, Trending Now: 11 Popular Kitchens That Rock Not-White Cabinets, New This Week: 3 Welcoming White-Cabinet Kitchens, New This Week: 6 Stylish Not-White Kitchen Cabinet Colors, 4 Kitchens With White Cabinets and a Wood Island. I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? Christina check out Rubio monocoat Gris belge Havana Slate grey These greys are very popular and with the matte sheen you will absolutely love them. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. Then the installer goes over it a second time causing lap marks or white lines. How 'cheap' do you want to go with something that important? Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. They did a great job. The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. My tub with quartz top. Don't test just with sealer. If you think of the paint color of your cabinets.pass it on please. @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! Can you share the color? thanks, so much. is the only way to go. thanks, All! My installer did 2 coats of Nordic Seal today. Have experienced installers figured out how to use the Nordic in open floor plan homes? Anything over 700 square feet for me is done in multiple days. NordicSeal is going to give you a white frosting. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? His maternal grandfather, Justice Thomas Smith, had been for many years a prominent lawyer and a distinguished judge in Philadelphia, and his maternal great-uncle, the Rev. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. I'd love to know if you end up liking your final product and would welcome any photos! Due to it's ingredients, It is mainly used for custom color mixes with dyes and Bona's sport paint line for insane color schemes. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. The light white washing will give you the raw look. It should have had one extra coat of protectant. Thank you for suggesting Bona Mega One. Thx for sharing. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . I have found some great inspirational pictures. Not always as expected. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. Do you have high ceilings ? I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. Apply the second coat. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. Milesi Natural 2k? Sample made on raw white oak during the decision process: two coats of Bona NordicSeal, top-coated with Bona Traffic Naturale. We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. Here are some of my samples. Shaina.. White Macaubas is a true Quartzite not a granite. Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). Great photos and beautiful floors! These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? Buyer beware, you should be nervous. IntenSeal looked the best to me - darkening it enough to show the differences in the wood, but it seemed more tan/brown than yellow. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. I used a custom color mix of about 2/3 mist and 1/3 white stain. What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. That seems light to me, but he said it was sufficient (that word doesnt make me feel convinced). Thanks for the responses. All of their materials will have to be paid for (as part of your contract), but it can be done. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable.
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